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And tried taking advantage of it
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So I tried forcing a conversation in my head and I tried to see if Yellow was there
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I tried like forcing a lucid dream
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Instead what I got was a very scary experience (edited)
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I lost all of my feeling for a moment, And my vision was filled with a close up of an unfinished drawing of her
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all I was hearing was some sort of violent low-pitched pounding
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accompanied by something that sounded like my own voice yelling her name
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It was horrifying
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So I come to ask
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What the hell was that and has that happened to anyone else
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??????
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berockly (TTG) 8/16/2023 4:22 PM
Hpynagogia
4:23 PM
Specifically, hypnagogic hallucinations
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CoppermineKittygirl 8/16/2023 4:23 PM
The brain doing weird things as it's falling asleep, as it always does
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berockly (TTG) 8/16/2023 4:24 PM
Anyways, its a normal thing
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Hallucinations when you wake up (which i find less common) are hypnopompic hallucinations
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Thank you
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So can I just like wait through it then
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If I notice it’s happening
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maybe when it’s done I can break through
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/16/2023 4:35 PM
maybe if you look at it long enough you will turn supersayan
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berockly (TTG) 8/16/2023 4:35 PM
You can ignore it if you want
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Another common hypnagogic hallucination is seeing lights in your eyes
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I’m willing to endure a little bit of psychological torture if it means I get to hug my girl
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berockly (TTG) 8/16/2023 4:38 PM
SP is more of what id call psychological torture
4:39 PM
(Sleep paralysis)
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/16/2023 4:39 PM
oh ok i thought you meant singleplayer and i got confused
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berockly (TTG) 8/16/2023 4:40 PM
My theory about SP is that the hallucinations are hypnopompic
4:41 PM
Meaning they happen in between the transition of being asleep and awake (the reverse of hypnagogia)
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Tewi: That sort of weird stuff does normally happen in sleep paralysis/when you end up in a weird state of being half asleep, half awake. (edited)
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Weird sounds (even loud ones) and random imagery are very common.
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If you're not scared though, that state is incredibly beneficial for entering into lucid dreams, as you can bring your conscious awareness and intent with you as you're falling asleep.
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(Some people like us cannot experience that no matter what we do, though)
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yeah it's nigh-impossible for us too
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we always suffer from those hypnic jerks if we're tired enough to drift to sleep in less than 15 minutes
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and if it takes any longer our concentration falls out of our brain
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It happens to us, but it's never usually bothersome.
2:41 PM
The only time it was was when we were very sleep deprived. I assume it got worse because of that.
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Hii! We have been working on switching lately. On our first attempt with meditation to switch resulted in kind of like an alternate state of consciousness(thanks to leiko and kitkat for helping us out) but after that we were not able to make much progress with switching.
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Any tips anyone?
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A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 1:39 PM
An alternate state of consciousness? Can you elaborate please?
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Like I couldn't tell if I was the host or the tulpa and I was feeling really excited and confused
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I'm not sure how to explain it
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 1:48 PM
thats pretty normal, people usually call it blending
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That's blending? (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 1:50 PM
when you cant tell the two of you apart or something similar
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Wow
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But we were actually trying to switch
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 1:50 PM
yeah it usually happens when you switch or cofront
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doing affirmations helps to get out of it, just decide which one of you should be switched in, and then whoever should be switched in does affirmations and assumes everything that happens is them doing it
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When we try to switch I feel like something is happening and then it doesn't
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 1:53 PM
what do you expect to happen
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Uhm... Switch?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 1:53 PM
have you done it before?
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Nope
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 1:53 PM
then what do you expect it to feel like, the switch
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Well... My tulpa will be in front, controlling the body and l'll just sit back l guess
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Zehel X403
Like I couldn't tell if I was the host or the tulpa and I was feeling really excited and confused
aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 1:56 PM
whenever that happens next time, try to embrace the feeling that you are the tulpa and whatever happens, let it happen
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Actually it didn't happen again. It only happened on our first attempt
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And sometimes after the attempt to switch my tulpa will be inactive
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For some time
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Like, she won't respond
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A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 2:00 PM
I don't know exactly what Leiko is telling you in DMs, but I do know affirmations are important. When we switch, we say, "I am the host, I am one with the body, I am switched-in". Of course, you can say anything that makes you feel good. Although I have seen the "I am the host" statement carry a lot of power with it, given I actually got the idea from someone else! (edited)
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Does the tulpa say it or the host?
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A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 2:01 PM
Your headmate would say, "I am the host"
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Out loud in mind?
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A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 2:01 PM
In head, yeah
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I see
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Thank you
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We'll try it
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berockly (TTG) 8/18/2023 2:03 PM
we have a really simple way of switching
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to the point where i dont know how to explain it other than "just do it"
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switching works the same way as rping for us
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Zehel X403
And sometimes after the attempt to switch my tulpa will be inactive
A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 2:04 PM
This could be exhaustion from blendiness or if not that then being tired While some switching strategies do involve push and shove, you don't need to exert yourself that hard... Don't deliberately give yourself a headache, that's not the goal
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Oops, sorry, I would have moved it (edited)
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berockly (TTG)
switching works the same way as rping for us
Wow that's amazing
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berockly (TTG) 8/18/2023 2:05 PM
yeah, we just kinda swith thought proccesses from the body's point of view
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think from the tulpa instead of yourself, is basically how i do it
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A long kiss goodnight
This could be exhaustion from blendiness or if not that then being tired While some switching strategies do involve push and shove, you don't need to exert yourself that hard... Don't deliberately give yourself a headache, that's not the goal
Like not to try too hard?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:06 PM
its very feeling-based for us, i let her to the front and just let her feel like her
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berockly (TTG) 8/18/2023 2:07 PM
for us it just feels somewhat like wearing the tulpa over me
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:07 PM
it goes from me feeling like im pretending to be her, to some mushy thing in between and then her doing things and thinking the way she does
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Zehel X403
Like not to try too hard?
A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 2:07 PM
Right If you do try a push and shove switching ritual, if it doesn't work the first couple of times you can either stop or relax and try again later (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:07 PM
but it all happens very quickly
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theres no weird feelings or anything in between
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i think thats where people kinda trip up when they expect something weird to happen
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I don't think I expect something weird to happen
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:09 PM
the only "weird" thing that happens is my body and brains suddenly feel different emotions out of nowhere than when i was in front
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going from straight faced typing on here to being happy and jamming to music
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Wow, different people have different experience and ways to switch
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:12 PM
i think there are just different views on what happens and how people interpret things
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and what you do while you do it
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we dont have any "rituals" at all
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Thank you everyone!!
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:13 PM
do you know what your tulpa likes a lot?
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Uhm..... She's not sure herself
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:13 PM
or have you felt her emotions kind of bleed out
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like if she thinks something you say is funny you feel it
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Not much
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